two and a half months.

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nonyvs
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two and a half months.

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Hi!
First of all, thank you Anna for your books, for sharing your experience with the rest of the world, its so helpful!
Our little girl have been already one month with the StandarModel and it has change her totally! Now she is so happy that sometimes its difficult to remember how difficult she was in the beginnin :D
I have been reading your book and got inspired by Hugo´s mother, so looking at our baby costumes, I have now restructed her day , with 2 motnhs and 2weeks old like this:
7.00-8.15- eating
8.15-9.15- sleeping
9.30-12.45-eating and playing and 30-40min nap at 11.
13.00-15.00-sleeping
15.00-17.00-eating, and playing.
17.00-19.00-sleeping
19.00-21.00-eating and bath
21.00-23-00- sleeping
23.00-23.10- eating from the bottle 130-150ml(my milk)
23.10-7.00- sleeping.

We have been doing it now for three days and it looks like she is okay with it, but, it´s right the amount of sleeping ours?? I am a little confuse because I cannot find in the book the amount of hours recommended for this age. We are giving the food in the bottle at night because she eats more amount in less time, since we have removed the food at 4. 00. But my big doubt is if you think its good structured in the mornings! Its too much time sleeping? Should I try to keep her awake from 9.30 to 12.45?
Than you very much!!
Ewa
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Hi and Congratulations to your little sweetheart :D

She needs 16 hours sleep in total, so judging from your schedule she may need another 30 minutes or so. Does that concord with your own findings? If she manages, you may want to cut down on the number of naps in the morning and allow only the one, with more time awake in between naps. One suggestion would be to have a nap from 9-11, or 8.30-10.30, depending on what she would prefer. A 2-hour nap would provide the amount of sleep needed in total without interfering with the rest of the schedule, if you like.
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nonyvs
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thank you!

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Thank you for the quick answer!
Today I have tried to let her sleep a little longer, and it was working perfect. She slept until 10.00 instead of 9.15, with no problem :D
I have another little question...how should I wake her up at 23.00 when she is totally slept? We have learned through the book how to keep her sleeping, but how do I do the opposite without been " a bit gross"?
Thanks a lot for all the help :lol:
Ewa
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You don't necessarily have to wake her up at all, other than to get her to eat, which many babies will do more or less asleep. I hope that answers your question. :D
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nonyvs
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crisis!

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Hi again!
We are here now in a little crisis: We made everthing as its said in the book, in order to put her into the schedule that I showed in the previous mesagge. It was working and then it became perfect with the 30 min more,(we needed to be awake only the first night, nothing during the second or the third:)) but suddenly, (since saturday morning) she is strangely irritated, extremely hungry and doesn´t sleep more than one hour per nap during the day, and she wants to eat all the time or she is crying like dying!
I dont know, is it normal to have this kind of crisis at her age (she is gonna be 3 months in 2 weeks), did we put a bad schedule for her, or are we doing it wrong? I dont know, it started just after making the schedule better for all of us, and now, we don´t have schedule at all! :(
What can i do? I don´t even know what to try during the day to come back to some order, since I cannot put no order in sleep or feed!
Thanks!!!
Ewa
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It sounds to me as if she's in a period where she needs more to eat, and will therefore eat more often. One such period usually occurs around 8 weeks, but that may be what you're seeing. So give her more to eat during her time awake, and then try to help her to sleep if need be. But be generous on the food! This usually only takes 3-4 days, or a week maximum, before you produce enough milk to keep up with what she needs.
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nonyvs
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Thank you so much! It´s amazing how fast you answer and the help given.
Now I will try to be calm, keep her as happy as possible and wait that my milk comes, because otherwise she looks totally healthy!
Thanks really
Ewa
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You're welcome :D
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nonyvs
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Hi! I copy my new question here:

I have my little girl awake for 2-2´5 hous per meal, but she is not exactly a calm baby, so she eats really fast.
The thing is that it could be that in 20 min we are done with the 1 and 2 steps of the Standard Model, (change included), and then she eats the last also like in...15 min max. That leaves us almost 2hours free. What should I do for so long time? I cannot put her to sleep before because she refuse to be sleeping if its too early!
So..my questions:
-how long should i have the socializing after the change?
-should I put her down to sleep after she has eaten all the times even if its not the time for her to sleep? Sometimes she is so tired, that I cannot keep her awake even if I try...
-how do i do to keep my "little fatty angel" happy when its became almost two hours (or 1 and a half) between the steps 2 and 3 of the model? Am I doing it right?

Thanks a lot!
annawahlgren
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:D Thank you so much for your warm words :heart:
nonyvs skrev:it could be that in 20 min we are done with the 1 and 2 steps of the Standard Model, (change included), and then she eats the last also like in...15 min max. That leaves us almost 2hours free.
By 2 months, the Standard Model principle (which is not a law cut in stone but a pribciple of sensible flexibility) suggests 2-2, which means daytime waking time and daytime naps respectively should be of about the same length.
nonyvs skrev:-how do i do to keep my "little fatty angel" happy when its became almost two hours (or 1 and a half) between the steps 2 and 3 of the model? Am I doing it right?
:D Four rounds of feeding should be given her (or more) within a period of one hour or (at the most) 1 hour 15 minutes a meal. This leaves approximately one hour for changing, socializing, and passive social participation each time.

She should consume 1000 g a day now, which would mean approximately 200 g four times a day, 100 g for the nightcup and 100 g for the night meal (after the uninterrupted night sleep of whatever you've got).

For the sake of her well-being, I think you need to feed her much more than you would ever believe she can take :wink: :lol:

O:) :heart: :sleep:
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nonyvs
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Hi!
We have started to give one extra bottle of formula and everything is back in order again :D She was just hungry and I could not give her as much milk as she needed! Thank you soooo much!!
Ewa
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=P~ And she's not alone :wink: Take care :D :heart:
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nonyvs
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Hi there again! Sofia is going to be 4 months in a week, and me and my husband have NEW questions !! :)

First of all, we have introduced a new schedule, considering her age.
This is an "ideal" schedule:

7.00 (6:00) Breakfast and awake
8.45 Sleeping
9:30 Awake
11.00- Eating (milk)
11.45- Sleeping
13.45-Awake
14.00- Food (fruit + milk)
15.30- Sleeping
16.15-Food (milk)
18:00 Sleeping
18.30- Food (bottle)
19.30- Goodnight
(22:00 quick food)

According to this ideal-plan. 11,5 hours nightsleep + 4 h. We tried first without the 18 o clock nap, and putting her to sleep for the night at 19 o clock, but the girl was becoming too tired, so therefore we introduced the nap at 18:00 (30min). This change has made her a bit confused, and it has become more difficult to put her to sleep for the night. Any reason for that?

Please comment our schedule. If we are on the right path..?

..and we also have a few questions:

1. We have been giving her the 22 o clock food, because she has been VERY hungry in the night and as we have not given porridge (välling) yet (we are waiting for her to turn 4 months before starting). Is it okay to skip it or shoud we continue to give her milk in the night, until she starts with the porridge?

2. She wakes up every morning at 6 o clock, and doesnt seem to be "starving", but more like "boored" with sleeping... It feels impossible to get her to continue sleeping for one hour more (which her parents would prefer.....) - what can we do to get her to sleep until 7?

3. About the evening nap....


Thank you so much in advance!!

L&M
Ewa
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HI!

I would cut down to 3 naps and skip the last one. That should be sufficient now. If she has trouble eating properly because she is too tired around 6pm, I would give her a 5-minute nap. No more. That doesn't interfere with the night, whereas 30 minutes usually will. Also, most little children will need at least 2,5 hours of time awake before going to bed for the night.

As she is now 4 months old, I would introduce proper food (potato, banana, avocado...) around lunch time, and something more substantial than milk before bedtime. That's by far the best way of reducing night time eating. Give it a week and then you'll see she won't need that last bit of feeding around 10pm.
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TorsMamma
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Hi, I would like to comment as well. You need to give this child 15.5 hours of sleep where 11-12 hours are at night and the rest during the day.
If you make the 2 nap a LONG one you will se that the last 4ht one is too much.

So please see what you can do to readjust your schedule. :D
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